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Are you and I already in heaven?

There is reason for me to believe that we live in a parallel universe right now.   Yes, one of those universes that the scientists talk about in purely scientific terms.  We exist there now with our same memories and personalities (although possibly much more mellow), but in a timeless place where we are free to move back and forth in what to us is time.   In that place everything that has already happened, or will ever happen in our present or natural universe is available to all the inhabitants of the other universe.  

The inhabitants of that other universe just don’t have the same ability that we have to change anything in our universe (the one we live in now) as they go along.  But they can visit our past, our present, and our future at will.   That place is called Heaven by us, and the only “catch” as we would characterize it is that everyone is already dead, risen again and with the Father.   You, I, everyone we know, all our individual ancestors and all our children, and all their descendants are already there.   And we are still stuck here.  Thankfully, it is temporary and we will then cross over the veil into that other universe – to Heaven.

This concept is all based on one of the most interesting visions I’ve had, a revelation on the nature of Heaven and of our spirits.  It is the brief one the evening after my father died.   I called it the Vision of Crossing Over – Timeless Heaven. In it a voice, presumably from an angel, told me this about my father who had died earlier in the day:

“Take comfort!  The Spirit and Heaven, like God, are timeless and have no beginning and no end.  Your father has not gone to the present Heaven, but to the future Heaven!   You and your descendants, as well as your ancestors, are all there to greet him!”

Do you understand what that really means?   Most of us can fathom the concept that “God is timeless” – capable of moving back and forth in time, that “He knew us from the beginning” and planned and “created us from the first day of creation”.   In other words, timelessness is a special attribute that we associate with God.   Yet when we hear that God has known us from the beginning of creation, we just take it for granted that He is able to do that.   He planned us and when we would be born, live and die.   Now the timeless spirit word from the angel tells us that we were actually present at the beginning too – the spirit is “timeless and have no beginning and no end” – confirmation of what we have been told.

The voice told me that our spirit and the Heaven that we go to are both timeless.   A timeless heaven and a timeless spirit (our spirit) resolves the conflict between the idea of Revelations 20 whereby we are all resurrected together and the idea that we hope is true – that we are taken immediately to Heaven.  If Heaven and our spirits are timeless, then we both go immediately (one at a time) and at the same instant arrive together.   Jesus told the criminal on the cross: 

…”Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise” Luke 23:43

This criminal went straight to Heaven, but we thought perhaps it was a special case.  This timeless Heaven, timeless spirit revelation resolves the quandary I hear all the time.   “I’m sure that my Mother is in heaven, but I’ve also been told that we rise together at the end of 1000 years – at the end times.   When do we go?  Is she there already or not?”

They both are true, because in Heaven all times are the same time.   She dies well before you, rises immediately (at the instant of death) at the end times and is greeted by you and all your ancestors and your descendants who also arise at that same instant.   She can look down on you at any time she chooses, and so can you. 

What a concept!  What a revelation!    Heaven’s inhabitants can visit any of our natural times at any time their spiritual bodies wish.   We arrive together but it is instantaneous upon our death, which may be many years apart as we measure it, but is the same instant as God, Heaven, and the Spirit measure it.

In this parallel universe of a timeless Heaven, we can move back and forth in time, visit with ancestors and visit situations with our descendants.  We likely won’t be concerned with what is happening because we already know the outcome and are already with whoever we were visiting with.   I can’t see any reason for this visiting except as a chance to smile and say:  “Now look how worried you were!  And now you know it was all for nothing!” or just to review and witness how our families developed.

Ever had a déjà vu moment?  The experience of déjà vu seems to be very common; in formal studies 70% of people report having experienced it at least once.   Déjà vu has been described as “remembering the future.”   Perhaps our own spirit, already in Heaven, has given us a quick glimpse of this moment and we did not realize it.   Ever had an inspiration that seemed to come out of the blue?   An idea, a solution, a thought that you did not understand how it popped into your head?   Perhaps an ancestor, descendant, or self was present.

Parallel universe – or Heaven!  What do you think?  I think Heaven is all around us, not just “up there”!

For the scientists and physicists:

Those of you with a scientific curiosity and mind may want to check out how I’ve presented this timeless concept to the physics world:   Does time exist?  What I’m really talking about there is the realm of photons – light.  It was inspired by the vision mentioned above.   God is the light, Jesus is the light of the world.   If this parallel universe we call Heaven is timeless, perhaps it exists in the same universe that photons – light – does.   It makes sense to me.  It tells me where Heaven really is, not necessarily up there, but all around us – we just can’t see it – yet!  This other presentation is purely scientific.  You and I know the rest of the story.

Yes, science and religion can co-exist.  

Oldtimer

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Vision of Crossing Over – Timeless Heaven

Crossing Over

This vision had the most profound meaning to me of any vision I’ve had.  It was the final seal for me that heaven not only exists, but it is indeed populated with our ancestors.  There was a suprise though in one major area – it showed me who else is already there.

But about the resurrection of the dead‑‑have you not read what God said to you, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’ ? He is not the God of the dead but of the living.” When the crowds heard this, they were astonished at his teaching.  Matthew 22:31‑33 (NIV) 

Thursday, November 25, 1999, Thanksgiving Day.  It was the day after my Father died.  I was trying to take a nap, but not successfully.   I kept telling Dad, and God as well, how much I loved them.  Also Mother.  

I had a brief vision, followed by an understanding that seemed to come from God about the “hereafter”.  But first the vision:

I saw Dad lying back on the chair that I found him in, he had his mouth partially open and immediately a wispy breath emerged but grew into the figure of a white angel carrying what I knew was his spirit, who was also wispy and white.  The angel had Dad around his waist from behind and both were facing forward as they sped skyward.  Although Dad was still in the chair in a closed house when I found him, they were now speeding away into the open blue sky.

They were both looking to heaven and speeding away so rapidly that the entire vision took only a second to complete. 

The angel’s wings were initially folded back sharply to form a long trail that came from Dad’s mouth, and as they came out, they were immediately the same size as the figure of Dad – it happened so fast that when I first realized what I was looking at, they were full size, and Dad’s head was about even with the Angel’s, and both were looking straight up as they sped away.

Then I had an understanding or word of comfort that seemed to be a truth that only God could have given me.

The words I heard said,

“Take comfort!  The Spirit and Heaven, like God, are timeless and have no beginning and no end.  Your father has not gone to the present Heaven, but to the future Heaven!   You and your descendants, as well as your ancestors, are all there to greet him!”

Those are the only words that I heard, but the understanding goes deeper.  I can’t find the words to describe the terminology of Heaven in the context of time.  The best that I can hope to do is to say that when we die, we don’t go to the present Heaven, meaning one that exists right now, even though one exists right now – Heaven is in a different time dimension than we can perceive!   Heaven wasn’t one age when Moses died and an older one when Dad died.   Heaven is both ageless and timeless.  So is the spirit, even yours and mine.  God has known us from the beginning of time.

In a sense, there is no such thing as a “present Heaven,” unless you say “the ever-present Heaven”, because Heaven, like God, is timeless.  When we die, our spirits are timeless, in the same sense that God is timeless, but of course, our spirits have limitations that He does not have.  We don’t become gods. 

We actually cross over into a timeless world, not a  present heaven where a person dies and arrives in Heaven that day and many years later one of their great great grandchildren dies and he or she arrives at that later time.  Instead, we arrive all at once, best described by my feeble mind as the future one.   I say that because   from what I was told, not only are our ancestors present, but our descendants too!   In my thinking, I can only perceive that as the future Heaven, though I know that is not good terminology.

I don’t know how it works, but what I understand is that when we arrive in Heaven, we are greeted by loved ones who have preceded us and loved ones who die later, and soon, all descendants.  All of us arrive at the great awakening as soon as we cross over, with no apparent lapse of time, but when we first arrive, it is in that future time as we would perceive it on earth.  I would guess that this happens in the end times as described by Revelations.  

So we meet our parents, grandparents and our children and grand children, nieces, and nephews generations far into this “natural” world’s future and far into the past as well. 

I would guess that we don’t necessarily see or meet them all at once, but being timeless, we may meet a future descendant or perhaps an ancestor and visit with them, and even travel back or forward with them and observe their life at the times they wish us to see, and show our own lives as well.   Our spirits are timeless so we can move back and forth through time at will. 

I am speculating at this point, so feel free to discount this part, but as I see it, it is in those travels, when we, as spirits, could conceivably  visit our own “natural” lives, which may be (as we perceive time in this natural world) some time in our distant past or some time in our future.   In any event, those who find comfort in thinking their departed loved one is nearby or watching over them can take heart in knowing that they may well be doing exactly that in God’s timeless Heaven.

Do you suppose it is possible that, on those occasions, we sometimes, perhaps only with God’s permission, give ourselves a word of knowledge or wisdom that we may recognize as coming from God or we might attribute to a premonition or to deja vu?

In any event, the really neat thing about Heaven, the part that I get a firm grasp on, is this:  When we die we are instantly with loving ancestors, loving descendants, and with a loving God.   Everything that we have worried about has already happened and these happy spirits that we meet in Heaven when we arrive are unconcerned about long past events. 

I can’t see why there would be any reason to visit or observe those we left behind, since we are together in Heaven, but perhaps sometimes we may choose to do so.  Dad, although he preceded me in death, is already with me in Heaven.  He has no reason to look over me in the life he left behind.  He already knows the outcome.  

If we were to choose to go back and look at some significant event that is part of my or his life, we might have an option to give a word of knowledge that comes in our own voice, in our own head, so it may or may not be recognizable as coming from our Spirit.  Have you ever, if you are like me, occasionally had things come to you “out of the blue” a sudden thought,  and it suddenly makes a difference in your life? 

In any event, I have come to  realize that all those trials and tribulations, all those successes and failures have little meaning except as to how we look in the eyes of God.   Pain and sorrow, despair and death, all fade away when we show our lives to our loved ones in the light of God’s plan, and see how it all fits in.  I imagine that we couldn’t be happier, or freer to worship and praise God with that knowledge and freedom.                   

For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. {22} For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. {23} But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. {24} Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.  1 Corinthians 15:21‑24 (NIV) 

This vision, like the many that preceded it, are all true and accurately described using notes from my journal at the time.  However, it is well to note that these visions have never faded.   Not at all like dreams which fade even before you finish getting up.  Once God gives you a vision, you have it forever.  You can call it up at anytime.   I’ve not always recalled the exact words I saw or heard, but the visual parts are fixed like a movie playing in my mind.   The words are accurate because they came from my journal, usually written within moments of the end of a vision.

They have been generally in the order received, but I’ve gotten out of order here to put my Dad’s death next to Mother’s.  Now I have to figure out how to put these in order again and can’t.  They are at least all accurately dated. 

Because it is related to the end times and/or ascending to heaven, I will tell you about The Children next.